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New TestamentMark 8:17Gospels
“Why reason ye, because ye have no bread? Perceive ye not yet, neither understand? Have ye your heart yet hardened?”

The full verse · Mark 8:17 · KJV

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Asked by

Jesus

Jesus: the Son of God and promised Messiah, crossing the Sea of Galilee by ship with His disciples after refusing the Pharisees a sign (Mark 8:10-13)

Asked to

Disciples

Disciples: "the disciples" (Mark 8:14), in the ship with Jesus (Mark 8:10, 13), who "had forgotten to take bread" and had not "more than one loaf" with them in the ship (Mark 8:14). They "reasoned among themselves" after His warning about leaven (Mark 8:15-16).

The Scene

In the ship, Jesus warns His disciples to beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of Herod, and they reason among themselves, "It is because we have no bread" (Mark 8:14-16).

Why It Was Asked

The disciples heard the word "leaven" and thought about bread. They had only one loaf, and their talk turned to what they lacked. Gill says Jesus knew their talk the way He knew the Pharisees' thoughts: "as he knew the thoughts and reasonings of the Scribes and Pharisees ... so he did those of his own disciples."

Each question goes a layer deeper. The first asks why bread is filling their minds. The second asks why they still do not see what He has shown them. Gill says "it might have been expected, that by a second miracle of the loaves, their understandings would have been more enlightened, and their faith increased." The third asks whether their hearts have grown hard, the very thing Mark said of them after the first feeding (Mark 6:52).

The Response

The disciples give no answer to these three questions. Jesus keeps pressing: "Having eyes, see ye not? and having ears, hear ye not? and do ye not remember?" (Mark 8:18). They speak only when He asks for numbers, answering "Twelve" and "Seven" (Mark 8:19-20). He closes with one more question: "How is it that ye do not understand?" (Mark 8:21). Matthew adds that at last they understood He meant "the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees" (Matthew 16:12).

Historical Context

Leaven is yeast, a small lump of fermenting dough worked into new dough until it spreads through the whole batch. Barnes explains that Jesus was using it for the doctrines of the Pharisees, which were "insinuating, artful, plausible" and spread secretly through the mind. He adds that the Jews did not often use "leaven" for doctrine, which helps explain why the disciples missed the point. Mark names the leaven "of Herod" where Matthew names the Sadducees (Matthew 16:6). Barnes thinks it "not improbable" that Jesus warned against them all, so that "the evangelists speak the same thing."

The word "hardened" is the Greek poroo, which Thayer defines as "to cover with a thick skin, to harden by covering with a callus." Mark uses the same verb of the disciples after Jesus fed the five thousand (Mark 6:52). The word "reason" is dialogizomai, to talk something over or debate it.

The Bigger Picture

These questions show what Jesus most wants from His followers. His questions are not about a forgotten loaf. They press on how men who had watched Him feed thousands, twice, could still reason about having no bread with Him in the ship. Matthew Henry puts it plainly: "Thus distrust of God makes Christ's disciples quarrel among themselves."

The question about hard hearts is striking because of where it lands. Just before this, the Pharisees demanded a sign and Jesus "sighed deeply in his spirit" (Mark 8:11-12). Now His own friends show a smaller version of the same blindness. Yet He does not leave them. He keeps asking questions, walks them back through what they saw, and then heals a blind man in stages (Mark 8:22-25), right before Peter finally sees who He is (Mark 8:29).

Look Closer

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What did the disciples think Jesus meant by "the leaven of the Pharisees"?

Your Turn to Ask

Carry the question into prayer and conversation.

Ask God
Lord Jesus, You have provided for me before; what are You trying to teach me that my worry about what I lack keeps me from hearing?

A prayer to carry into the day.

Ask Yourself and Others
  1. The disciples heard a spiritual warning and turned it into a worry about bread. What concerns tend to crowd out what Jesus is saying to you?
  2. Tell about a time God provided for you. How might remembering it change the way you face a present need?

For you, a small group, a friend, or the dinner table.

For Your Life Today

It is easy to hear Jesus through the filter of your current worry. The disciples were so focused on one loaf that a warning about false teaching sounded like a comment about their pantry.

When you notice anxiety about provision taking over, try doing what Jesus did with His disciples: walk back through what He has already done. Hard hearts in Mark 6:52 and Mark 8:17 are tied to forgetting, so remembering is part of the cure.

This does not mean that needing bread is wrong or unspiritual. Jesus fed hungry crowds because He had compassion on them (Mark 8:2). The problem was not having needs. It was forgetting who was in the boat.

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